Now for Double Sure, definitely no releasing delegates by Hillary for Obama

From minnieb9, Wednesday June 25

No releasing delegates by Hillary, what the heck are we, Zimbabwe, heck no

Let Barry Obama win the nomination based on the actual vote, that is plenty enough. What the heck is the need for acclamation and unification. He has to win what he has to win. If he cant win the Dems, he certainly cant win Republicans. Let every vote count and count every vote.Besides they are not ***Hillary's delegates*** they are the People's Delegates and the votes said how they should call it at the convention. The idea that Delegates ***belong*** to the candidate is retro, feudal and ridiculous. When it is a small number like Howard Dean or John Edwards, nobody cares much and it is more of a yawn, but this case is an Issue, particularly since throughout the race Obama idiots and thugs kept up a drumbeat for withdrawal and acclamation.What the heck are they so scared of, their Bambi boy cant win. Ya chicken, or what. Win fair and square. Go on. Make it count.Hillary won hers fair and square and was ground down every inch. We want the votes tallied and her name placed in nomination. When Barry's vote count gets to the top, fine, we will applaud. But count every vote and tally all the votes.Stupid asses wanting coronations and acclamations. This is a Democracy people. Start acting like it.

// posted by minnieb9 @ 9:51 PM

Wherein Barry Obama rolls over like a wuss and General Wesley Clark takes a bullet for the side

OK, so here we go, this is the season when the candidates show what they are made of and Barry Obama shows he is made of wuss and John McCain shows he is made of whine. General Wesley Clark takes a bullet metaphorically speaking for the side.

I suppose yall know what this is about, apparently Wes Clark was on CBS on Sunday with young Bobby Schieffer, hahahahhaah, I meant, anciently elder Bobby Schieffer, and said that being shot out of a plane does not make anybody better qualified to be a leader and Bobby said, well Barry Obama wasnt shot out of a plane either or something like that.

And I think Wes Clark held his own very well and basically stood up for the Dem side, but Barry Obama totally wussed out. All that lash lowering, mole on the nose showing professorial crap was just a cover for Pure Wuss hood. Barry Obama is a wuss.

Becoz the McCain camp immediately started whining the minute Wes Clark spoke out. They know Wes is gutsy, they know he is Very Muy Smart guy and they know he has been a soldier, a diplomat, a private entrepreneur and a presidential candidate, who had a unique distinction of the grass roots actually fundraising and politicking for him before he even threw his hat in the ring. And even though CQ and people like Chuck Todd, who has now become a big shot, made fun and said Wes Clark is the only one asking if he will run, 30 million dollars or more later, scores of web sites started for him by enthusiastic grass rooters in practically all states, vets, kids, hippies, grandmas and grandpas crowding campaign stops to meet and greet him and multiple vote standings in multiple primaries that well exceeded seasoned politicians like Howard Dean and Joe Lieberman who had been the previous veep standard bearer told us, Wes Clark's supporters that we were right and smug mockers like Chuck Todd were wrong.

Although of course the Washington insiders never admitted it, and even though Wes Clark was well familiar to Washington, they always loathed and feared him becoz they never grokked him and becoz he was always so grass roots and Arkansas.

Yeah, so this time around, Wes Clark was supporting Hillary, not just becoz of his ties to Bill Clinton, who BTW, in the end, had betrayed Wes Clark and fired him or practically fired him becoz that other Wussy ass William Cohen who was Sec Defense and that Hugh Shelton general loathed and feared Wes Clark and didnt want him staying around Washington and truth telling about Bosnia or anywhere else and even though Bill Clinton betrayed him in the end, Wes Clark supported Hillary, becoz he felt her defense creds were better.
Now he has defended Barry Obama to nudgy Bobby Schieffer and becoz some surrogate on McCain's team and McCain himself started whining right away, whaddayaknow, good ole Barry

Obama rolled the heck right over.
Mr. rollie over Obama, thas him, people.
Damn moron. Now he is fucking stuck with this crap.

Guess how the NYT is reporting it:

The Obama campaign kept its distance from Clark’s comments. Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Illinois Democrat, said Monday that “Senator Obama
honors and respects Senator McCain’s service, and of course, he rejects
yesterday’s statement by General Clark."

Lemme tell ya, this is not called Keeping Distance, this is called Fucking rolling right the heck over and asking to be fucked. Stupid moron.

This is fucking repudiation of an honorable soldier who has staked his reputation for ya miserable ass.

OK, ya dont like it, fuck the heck off.

When I first read the interview earlier today, much earlier, and read of the McCain surrogate hysterical whining, I immediately had the thought Wes Clark should just leave Barry Obama stupid ass to defend himself.
But then I immediately thought, this man is an honorable soldier, he is seriously concerned about Iran, he has been seriously concerned about the bungling and mismanagement of Iraq, he knows all the problems in Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen, he is not gonna cop out from defending the interests of his beloved troops and his beloved country becoz of peeve or some other petty reason.

So in the end, I knew Wes Clark will do what he believes is right and then voila, wussy Barry Obama rolls the heck right over.

Ya see, thas the way.

I am already concerned about McCain's horrific choice of economic advisor Phil Gramm, whose wife Wendy Gramm was instrumental in bringing about the disasters of Enron, securities deregulation and now the hysterically spiralling housing and essential commodity crisis. I have been so busy carefully forensic checking the trail that led to this horrific economic multi part crisis and even though I already know many parts of the worst, guess what, I find something even worse, if that is possible. On her own Mercatus center web site, with full pride and joy, the totally shameless ass, with her grinning photo and a photo of a grinning accomplice writes a nasty hit piece on the EPA, available as pdf labelled something wicked this way comes. And the horrific shameless woman writes shamelessly about midnight regulations that might be entered by the EPA, who she hates like poison. And this from the woman who snuck in the horrific deregulation crap into an appropriations bill that led to the horrific deregs in commodities causing the spiralling disaster in oil and essential items, already having deregged energy for Enron, with her buddies Tom Delay and his lobbying wife.
My goodness, it just gets worse.
We have the horrific Gramms ready to make their triumphant reemergence, we have crazy ass John McCain ready to gallumph into war with Iran, stay in Iraq 100 years and we have wussy Barry Obama bleating like a chicken becoz an honorable, braveheart soldier defended his ungrateful ass.
Wes Clark, you just do whatever the heck you want. You dont work for Barry Obama, and you have the right to say whatever the heck you want. You have always defended the vital interests of your troops and your country and you just keep on doing whatever you believe in your heart to be right. A grateful nation knows your worth. God bless you and God bless the USA.
Shame on you Barry, silly wuss ass. Rolling over again and again. We gonna get stuck with crazy ass John McCain and we will be stuck with crazy ass Phil Gramm and his creepy moronic Wendy Gramm wife, who thinks the EPA of all things is what she calls wicked.
My goodness, it just gets worser and worser all the time.Labels: Barry Obama rolls over, McCain whines, Phil and Wendy Gramm look to redux, Wes Clark speaks the truth
From: minnieb9 @ 12:19 PMSunday, June 29, 2008

I dont why that NYT guy Kristof started moaning about Katie Couric as if she is like Hillary, there is no comparison

Katie Couric has always been a get along, go along dweeb, whose broadcasts are BORING. She starves herself with those anorexic parabuccal lines going down her face and she sucks up and defers to Republicans and corporate bosses.

She didnt mind lapping up the $17 million for the salary or bonus or whatever, but now that her broadcast is a dud she is complaining that corporates were on her case.

How come dozens of female and male broadcasters still managed to make their points and get their broadcasts.

No question many reporters and anchors were cheerleaders for the war. Brian Williams is also complaining about the Pentagon, but he thought his fellow White Christian Jesus Boy was right and the towel head sympos were wrong.

Like the American people many thought, what if Bush is right, right not just about the weapons, right about the ease of victory, right about the transition and right about a pacified mid east.

There were plenty of people and testimony and discussions to help them form the contrary view, the American people supported this President and the war right up to the hilt, all of us were lumped into misfits or disgruntled or commies or secret towel head sympos and stuff like that.

It's not like there wasnt plenty of testimony, op eds and reports to the contrary, many by State, Intel and military people, the American people and many press made their choices and took their pick.

Just becoz Katie Couric is a dweeb is not the reason to start bawling about women anchors, there are plenty of robust and credible women anchors.

I saw Sue on NBC practically the same after 10 years later, Linda Stouffer on CNN, Julie Chen, Jodie Chen, even the skinny anorexic ABC chick who is married to a rocker. There are many more and I cant recall all the names right now.

If they want a woman, there are plenty they could find, why the heck did they go for servile and deferential, the Katie woman is a disgrace.

Speaking of whom, I really dont know how Chris Matthews is gonna continue, first of all he has ticked off so many women, second of all, who is his constituency.

It amazes me the tiny viewerships with which MSNBC and other networks continue to parcel out their evening hours, there is just nothing there that helps people cope with the realities of the advancing economic and political clout in the world.

Plus Chris showed his misogyny apparently, he is too cranky and narcissistic and I dont know who proposed him for Bob Schieffer's show.

Plus, enough with the navel gazing Washington insider shtick, we sick of it.

Get Chuck Roberts from CNN, he is smart, he is resonant, he is from Nebraska or something, or get Linda Stouffer or Jodie Chen, if ya too scared getting Julie will seem like nepotism, now she married to that CBS guy who David Letterman jokes with on his show.

There's a bunch of very good people.

And make BBC and Deutsche Welle available in the country, ya can throw in something else, but those are a good start.

Go on.

Take a few bets, ya may be surprised.

So Gail Collins writes about the women who are ticked off at the primary process and Hillary's loss

but I didnt feel that way.

I was OK with the loss and the loss in progress, I wanted the process to reach its own conclusion. After it was over, I saw a WSJ article on the loss which had a sketch drawing of the person called Mark Penn.

This completely shocked me, becoz the Mark Penn I thought was Mark Penn was the genial, amiable thin cheeked man with glasses who shows up on round table discussions and all.

I tried googling in multiple ways to locate this person I thought was Mark Penn, but it kept showing up the jowly dude with the weird hair on the WSJ sketch. Imagine that.

Who the heck is the other Penn guy, with the grin and the Partridge family hair.

I last saw him on BBC with Kirsty Lang, and I got worked up becoz I thought Kirsty was putting on the guy with the lobbying cloud, who made millions and sold out Hillary.

So I still dont know who the Mark Penn with the Partridge family hair is.

But Gail is right about the social safety net, women's right, health, children and staying in the race.

That's why chicks like Carly Fiorina or the eBay lady are so not Hillary.

They rich and they set out to be rich and powerful and the lady who drives her car to the factory or to a shift in a hospital, and sometimes drives to a neighboring town to work, and then goes home and handles her family is not going to solve her problems by suddenly making $100 million dollars or floating a successful share offering.

We need chicks who are comprehending of what real world women and workers are going through, not the chicks who make millions and think everyone just has to be smart like them and nobody will have to worry about health care or social safety net for them, becoz they have 5 homes on three continents.

Somebody earlier in the blog suggested the female governor of Alaska, I will have to check her out.

I also like Katherine Sebelius from Kansas, and since Barry's grandparents are apparently from that, that would be lovely too.

I dont like Jim Webb or some other white hawk guy, it would make it too easy for the nuts to lust after that guy to get the job, better have a straightforward leftie chick. Then we will have a nice 2 term president.

Barry can win on his own, not with Jihadi Webb and his Viet wife rattling around in his wake.

Let's see what Webb achieves in the Senate besides being a counter point to macaca.

So Barry Obama won his nomination and Hillary won the States she did and Barry won the States he did

so what was the big whoop de do, we do have a nominee, everybody did get to vote, even those whose votes are only gonna be half or allocated by telepathy or whatever, everybody did vote.

At least we know stuff now, like Montana voted for Obama, this is important to know, at least now we have a nominee, we dont have to listen to the same morons who kept saying to truncate the process tell us that Barry was coronated or crap like that, or Caroline Kennedy was having an affair with him, or Maria Shriver or all kinds of moronic stuff.

He won whatever he won, including some fairly white and sunburned states, so who knew. Montana apparently has a few things in addition to its spectacular scenaries and cowboys and Ted Turner.

This is all good.

It is also fine that Barry is black, great that many people feel happy about this. Now he has the nomination, just win.

Becoz we dont want it to be a symbolic moment and then wait another 20 years before somebody wins.

But I think we are fairly used to black people being leaders, the surprise is so few leave their safe Congressional districts to run for Senate.

Maybe now it will happen.

One more thing about financial perfidies and stuff, is the subprime and housing meltdown in United States

Ya ever wonder how come it was really smart, patriotic people like Warren Buffet did not have the ability to foresee or head it off.

Or Bobby Rubin supposed to be the wise man of Citibank did not know what is a Liquidity Put. It's OK that I dont know, or not OK, but I was not in charge of Citibank, but now he says, he didnt know.

How come all the smart bankers of Wall Street did not head it off.

Or chicks like that high born Brooksley Born, who has a good family tree and connections to finance and law in America, if she was so sure about derivatives way back when, how come she was not effective in heading off or ameliorating the crisis.

How come nobody said how come ya charging all these humongous interest rates to modest income people.

I remember that looney Larry Kudlow, who they say used to take drugs, bleating over and over, when are they gonna Liquidate the Paper.

I dont think Larry Kudlow created the problem, but he unwittingly let out the real reasoning behind the cozy complicity and genial acceptance of news media, particularly people who present themselves as financial hotshots, on the genesis of this fiasco.

They all knew there would be a melt down, what they thought is that the big honchos would Liquidate the Paper, the poor and modest income people would lose their homes and the big honchos would have oodles of lovely real estate and liquidated cash to play with all over again.

didnt quite work out that way, did it.

This time, when Main Street got acidity, Wall Street got an ulcer.

That's how it looks.

Bye bye

To make a segue into economic perfidies, I chanced to find Ohio against Lakshmi Mittal, the great steel tycoon

and I forget what I was googling for, but I found Spy in Telegraph UK including items about his famous homes that he is buying on Millionaires Row in London, along with a bunch of Russian Jewish millionaires.

But I guess I googled the images and found a picture of his boat, or one he was planning to buy which turned out to be Larry Ellison's grandiose yacht and then came across this blog of Ohio Citizen.

They detailed their problems with Lakshmi Mittal and the asthma his steel plant furnaces have been causing and the problems not just in Ohio, but complaints from locals in Orissa, Kazakhstan and South Africa.

The note about Larry Ellison yacht is here. In the current document, he has bought some yacht called the Amevi with its own helipad and stuff like that.

And I think it is important to stay on this topic and for people to pursue it, becoz pollution and irresponsible practices in factories all over the world cause ill health and merely knowing what medicines and procedures to do for asthma is not sufficient if we are not aware of and tackling the fundamental causes.

I also noticed that Ohio Citizen was concerned about Coal mining and denudations of mountain tops.

However, unlike personalizing it against one individual, like they have done against the tycoon Lakshmi Mittal, I did not readily encounter the individuals or faces of the people responsible for denudation of the mountains.

These are also very serious issues.

I think it is important to personalize and identify individuals, particularly as mainstream media is only to happy to be a cheerleader and willing admirer of successful individuals, who present a genial and amiable face to their communities, but all the while their practices are undermining and damaging the health and well being of people.

If white citizens of Ohio will not take up the challenge, then surely their are enough foreign origin citizens who will find out the polluters identities and start blogging about them on a regular basis.

That's the only way we will start getting better practices from people who should do better, rather than simply gazing at them adoringly and admiring their great success or gushing about their grand parties or homes.

Bye bye.

PS: It would also be good as we go into election term, we find out exactly where Barack and McCain stand on the issues and how they plan to clean up the sadly denigrated environment.

Leaders in Bengal have already had a comeuppance on their failure to deal with public outrage over land grab and misappropriation in Singur.

But Mo Dowd also makes a stunning error in cosying up to Colin Powell, for some unfathomable reason

Colin Powell was a huge part of the perfidy and deliberate deceit on the war.

I dont know how she says the casus belli being trumped up irritated him, he was part and parcel of the bogus selling of the war.

He sat around glinty eyed and bs ed to Jim Lehrer, who is the most gelatinous and supine of news personalities, if personality can even be the term applicable, and told him the ballon weather trailers were weapons labs.

What else could they be.

Even after the fact, he did not show that he in any way regretted his looney presentation before the UN, representing the integrity of United States, or shall we say, ruining and misrepresenting what should have been the integrity of his country.

Not just that, but he and John McCain and a bunch of Repub Senators stood and posed around on the Hill the morning of the Senate vote insisting that it was to present a unified face to the UN and help create the momentum for Iraq to voluntarily comply.

That was not all.

His greatest perfidy was to take the fruits of the bugging of the UN meetings and then go the members and say, we dont want you to reach a consensus.

So that then, they could go to the people and say, the UN has failed us, we are gonna go to war and then go on to the looney Azores summit and bust in.

Today, one columnist you have to check is Mo Dowd on Scott McClellan

who has written about the lies and perfidies of the Bush administration and Bush personally.

She makes a few well apropos points:

One about junior’s bumpy and improbable boomerang journey from family black sheep and famous screw-up back to family black sheep and famous screw-up.

This is so spot on, becoz all the time in the 2000 campaign, those of us who researched his past and came up with his list of failures and shortcomings, including his financial blundering, his mistakes on the Texas budget, had emphasized just that.

His supporters said no he is a successful business man and ball team owner, and a graduate of posh universities and all of you are just kvitchy and jealous.

Indian Americans also adored him, especially Indians in Texas and in the South. So their own fiscal conservativeness and shrewdness, and they are largely a hugely hard working and successful group, demographically, did not give them any better insight into his huge failings and proclivities.

also the bankruptcies and shady dealings of his brothers.

The boomerang is particularly ironic, becoz soon after the height of the 9.11 tragedy, soon after the memorable church function, when he turned himself into a messianic persona, his Mommy said proudly, now he belongs to the world.

And just recently, his parents and he were photographed and they were almost regretful and bashful of his current ignominy, but the roots of his failings were apparent a long time ago.

Not just that, but his parents and his family even thought for Jebbie to be a logical successor as late as last year and if you ask me, they still harbor hopes of a family resurgence.

The second astute observation Mo Dowd makes is regarding how Bush came to be that way:

It seems that if you trust your gut without ever feeding your gut any facts or news or contrary opinions, if you keep your gut on a steady diet of grandiosity, ignorance, sycophants, and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, those snap decisions can be ruinous.

Bush was wilfully ignorant and went from town to town trumpeting his message in 2002, and his supporters, particularly in the Red States believed his baloney all the way through, whether it was on taxes, or the war.

And it is only now, when it has all come a cropper, that they have some regrets, not becoz they feel he was wrong, but becoz it all came out wrong and they dont see any easy way to wiggle out.

Staying on the topic of Clinton, we dont know if the marginal paper American Free Press is onto something or just fishing

but they raised the issue of Cheney and Clinton and the DC Madam list.

I dont understand why they or some mainstream paper doesnt insist on the full list and publishes it, especially with this suicide of the main lady concerned.

Surely it is a matter of public importance.

It is completely baffling.

talking of scarfing naughty snacks, that may have been Clinton's endearing weakness, but for the rest

I think most Dems are fairly fed up of him and he is what Frank Rich calls today an ***ubiquitous albatross*** hovering over the campaign of Hillary.

And people got got weary and wary of another Clinton term with rehash's of past errors and possible past delinquencies and more scandals possibly being unearthed as well as new ones related to his new globe trotting speechifying business and his new money friends, which may all be above board, but when a country is in recession, a formerly modest incomed man suddenly raking in millions starts making ya think of unseemliness.

I think Frank Rich is wrong about Hillary and her Iraq war vote on the other hand, every one who supported the positive vote believed the Bush campaign story that it was as an aid to show unity and pressure Saddam into complying with the resolutions.

Nobody anticipated that the Bushies, including Colin Powell, who was at State, would bug the meetings of the UN security people and dissuade them from a second resolution, would be thinking up scenarios to justify a willy nilly entry into the war, as a Blair aide wrote in his diary, or think up that ridiculous so called summit for half an hour lunch in the Azores and have Bush and Blair eat a little bite and decide it was time to go to war.

So Dems who voted to support the Bush resolution got undermined by Bush perfidy. That's the real story.

Obama can say he was prescient, but we still havent heard any explanation from him how he plans to deal with looney dictators, including North Korea and Myanmar, or his plans for Pakistan.

We would really like to hear.

so michigan and florida are being seated with half votes

I really dont know who thought of this looney compromise but it is weird and it is also weird that apparently the Clinton people accepted the Florida one and are annoyed at the Michigan one.

I have not been witnessing the misogyny of the TV hosts at first hand, but I can understand what is making the supporters of Hillary upset.

Even more upsetting is that Obama is a skinny, food virtuous male, forget black-shlack, it is his skinny ness, good skin and food virtue that is annoying as heck.

I dont know if we can elect a skinny person who doesnt scarf a handful of naughty snacks or sneak out for a food fix.

We'll see.