Saturday, May 24, 2008

Yeah, so Bobby Jindal, veep, my, my, now he is finally Governor of Louisiana, the Indians are

v happy.

In USA, the Indians mostly support the Republicans, at least when I was there.

OK, I am sure some support Dems, but in the communities in the South, they supported Thuglicans.

So I was not really supporting Bobby Jindal and in fact was a Kathleen Blanco supporter and she won the first time.

and bunch of commentator dweebs, I think it was these weekly standard people or some other right wing people said, it was a racist result.

How could it possibly be a racist result when 2 whitest counties voted for him, Bossier, the sister city of Shreveport, voted for him and some other county, almost totally.

Bossier is as conservative as Shreveport is liberal.

Bobby was winning when he started bragging about how totally anti abortion he was. This scared Dems silly. Also Dems already rejected a guy Milkovich, who said he was standing against abortion. He was rejected by 25% to 75% even though the Rethuglican is a watery eyed slug type.

Why do Indians support an anti abortion candidate. It is baffling.

That was not all.

Then he said Helmet laws mean a Nanny State, like there is something weird about telling people to wear helmets. OK, so maybe the Hell's Angels like that.

Then Kathleen Blanco released stuff on his record of Medicaid cuts when he was supposedly George Bush's little young health care whiz and also his record that he almost caused Grambling University to lose its accreditation.

And ya gotta understand, Grambling is the pride and joy of Louisiana.

Then finally, Bobby kicked his own self in the balls, by calling one set of so called Miscellaneous Funds, Slush funds.

Bobby mistakenly thought that Miscellaneous funds was a sneaky way for Governor's to pull wool over constituent eyes.

Keep in mind that the Governor at the time was a thuglican, Kathleen was only the candidate. But Bobby was blabbing about slush funds.

Now Miscellaneous funds was funds given to smaller counties that did not have their own tax revenue to keep roads, sewage and all.

But if ya want the State to function, ya cannot have a road or pipeline or electric line suddenly stop short at a county line becoz their own taxes dont cover it.

so in a state which has rich counties and downright poor counties, some which did not even have telephone lines well into the 2000s, ya have to find a way to pay for stuff, even if it is not strictly State Bidness.

So people in those counties, which many of them was white and poor, quickly ran and voted for Blanco in the final election.

So that is how Bobby Jindal lost that election.

Now, last thang I saw, was he was actually arguing for more Medicaid money and it was the Dem legislators who cut the funds.

People this is not a smart move, dont count on him being Indian, he is gonna tell everyone Your Stupid Ass cut the funds and if ya get ya ass kicked, it will be ya own damn stupid fault.

Louisiana medical care depends totally on charity care and Medicaid and the Medical School depends on it to keep their hospitals open, so heck do not mess with Medicaid funds just becoz ya feel like twisting the tail of the Rethuglican governor.

It is not a damn smart thang to do.

Just saying.

Think about it.

one last thang about the Republicans, ya remember when Lauch Washcloth was the face of the thugs

Him and Phil Gramm and Dan Burton.

Now I find that Larry Craig apparently called Clinton a bad, naughty boy over the Monica Lewinsky thang.

But he was not the ranters and hollerers who showed up on news shows all over the place, bawling for the impeachment.

I am real happy the 2 Hutchinson brothers of Arkansas reaped their just rewards by being booted out in elections.

Mike Beebe is an excellent governor of Arkansas.

The booting out of the impeachment thugs was one of my happiest recurring moments, as one by one they got booted out.

Lindsey Graham is the only one with staying power and he has turned into some kind of people based civil libertarian and people appear to like him.

But ya remember the time when Lauch Washcloth was the face of the thuglicans. Hahahhahahahaha. Gone.

Now apparently McCain is reviewing Charlie Crist, Mitt Romney and Bobby Jindal for veep. Charlie Crist I dont know, but I heard he is practically liberal, I may be wrong, Mitt Romney is a reject already, for heaven's sake and a trillionaire who will compound all the Bush mistakes and banking and high lending rate fiascos of the 21st century and Bobby Jindal, my, my, my.

Imagine where the thuglicans are right now.

and it may be coincidence, but coming across Oscar Wilde may be coincidence becoz the last person I was googling was Larry Craig

and I have made it a practice to look at a couple of McClatchy papers now and then and ya have to be real careful of the spelling becoz it is a tricky name, but anyway, the Idaho Statesman has a whole timeline of the Larry Craig issue.

And at the time and even now, I was against the prosecution and the summary resignation, becoz it did not seem that wagging your hand under a stall warrants a prosecution and plea.

It seemed simply ludicrous.

next time, they will jump on somebody becoz they scratched their nose or sneezed or coughed, becoz they will say, everyone knows it Means Somethang.

Well, that's just ridiculous.

But if ya check the Idaho statesman, they are also concerned that the Gay thang surfaced in 1982, then he married a chick with 3 children and vehemently denied it, then also that he repeatedly said he is not gay and the baseball team gave out bobble head dolls and some dolls apparently say the phrase, then he voted against hate crime bill including sexual orientation and in December 5 different people came up and gave various stories of gay type encounters with him including they say on Capitol Hill and in the same airport etc.

The Idaho Statesman also got a Pulitzer nomination for the breaking news aspect of the story. And they have an Asian publisher appointed by this McClatchy people folks.

Anway, whatever, the issue is that that was the second reason we did not want it pursued, we were tired of the gay bashing crap.

The other feller, Mark Foley, was a different case, he was a predator, even though his victims were the holy moly intern types who seemed to be scrub faced White Holy Republicans kept quiet about his crap but boasted or complained about it privately and didnt make a ruckus about it in their communities becoz their target would have been a fellow White Holy Republican.

But never mind the annoying aspect of the victims, their perky White Holy Republicanhood, the fact that he was a predator who abused his office was the deciding issue.

Larry Craig running from the stigma of gay dom is a different issue and now he has stayed in, he should think about coming out of the closet and apologizing to gay folks for betraying them and stuff like that.

Just come clean and start taking responsibility and show how difficult it is to be a gay man who is also a cowboy from a Western state and a Senator.

Go on, be brave.

and BTW the healthful anodyne line is from Oscar Wilde

the ballad of Reading Gaol, which is a word for Jail

and it is a real sad poem and the opposite of healthful or anodyne

the paragraph is this and why I was reciting the poem at circa age 10, I have no idea

He did not wring his hands nor weep,
Nor did he peek or pine,
But he drank the air as though it held
Some healthful anodyne;
With open mouth he drank the sun
As though it had been wine!


I remember a much shorter version, but some kind of longer version is posted here

in case ya wanna read the stupid David Frum blog post yaself

here the stupid thang is

in case the stupid man goes and changes it, which he is sneaky and ass and could craftily go and screw with it


Saturday, May 24, 2008
Mrs Clinton's RFK Remark
It seems obvious to me that she was just trying to stress that the most intensely emotional Democratic primary contest of her lifetime extended into June. It seems utterly bizarre to suggest that she was in any way contemplating an assassination attempt on Sen Obama.
Maybe Obama and his team heard it differently.
But maybe also they have a regular tactic of seizing on anodyne Clinton remarks and clutching at them as racial insults.
When my son was little and played kid soccer, there was a boy in his group who used to fall to the ground howling and clutching his shin every time the ball was taken away from him. The Obama campaign reminds me of that boy: a lot of theatrical injuries. We'll see more of that in the general. We'll see much more of it if he wins the presidency. An ultra-thin-skinned president whose supporters reject all criticism as a racist outrage - yes, I guess that counts as a new kind of politics. I'm not so sure it counts as an improved kind of politics.
05/24 05:14 AM


Plus, I only now noticed it says 5.14 am and when I checked my computer clock which shows 3 time zones, it is 6.50 am in NYC. Hahahahhahahah.

Talk about happy returns.

This was fast, people, at least for moi, since I am not sitting around waiting to respond every 2 seconds like some folks, not that that is a bad thang.

The only thang sillier and cuckooer and even more ludicrous and bizarre is David Frum's blog post

over the top yappity yap on it.

Mind you, I have almost forgotten who is David Frum. Mind you, I was not looking for his looney ass. I vaguely remember him as some kind of Canada transplant who wrote speeches for Bush. Maybe he was the axis of evil dude. I cant recall. The other speech writers name I have no recollection.

But I am googling Clinton remark to actually see if anything else was said, and somethang called National Review Online has somethang about anodyne and racial insult. I remember the word anodyne, it was in some recitation poem we spoke in some speech and poem elocution contest when I was like 10 years old. Around that time was also when I collected multiple scrap books of Bobby and JFK. As far as I knew anodyne is somethang good. The phrase was healthful anodyne.

Then, becoz I am lazy and bored, I am too fed up to even try and google anodyne. forget about dictionary, I have no idea where a dictionary is. Last one I had is in a store room in Shreveport. The one in Mumbai may be in a bookshelf. But I already told ya I was too bored to look.

So I look it up in the Word thesaurus. This implies anodyne is insipid, dull etc. Also neutral, inoffensive. This does not coincide with my memories of healthful anodyne. Also if so, it definitely does not coincide with an inflammatory remark about a sad and tragic assassination. So then I definitely have to google it.

So Wiki has the following:

An anodyne (Greek αν, loss, and οδυνη, pain: a cause which relieves pain) is a medicine that relieves or soothes pain by lessening the sensitivity of the brain or nervous system. Also called an analgesic (or colloquially a "painkiller").
The term has been applied incorrectly to various medications, such as narcotics, hypnotics, and opiates. True anodynes were applied externally to the part affected. Among those classed "simple" were onion, lily, root of mallows, leaves of violet, and elderberry.
Certain compound medicines were also called by this name, such as anodyne balsam, made of castile soap, camphor, saffron, and spirit of wine, and digested in a sand heat. It was recommended not only for easing extreme pain, but for assisting in discharging the peccant matter that occurred with the pain.
By extension, soothing or placating words are called anodyne.

Yeah, so this is more in line with my memory of healthful anodyne. And it is even further from a correct assessment of the inflammatory remark. How the heck can the RFK assassination remark be even vaguely considered an anodyne. Does it soothe, does it relieve pain, does it placate.

Sheesh, so when I turn to this so called National Review link, I am finding it is by this David Frum coot. Now that he has used the word so inappropriately, I see English must be his second or third language. Who knew.

That, or the man is cuckoo.

I also have a further rant.

Who the heck thinks the RFK assassination remark is a racial insult. Did RFK suddenly become African American. Jesse Jackson, OK, MLK Jr., OK. Why is offing RFK a racial insult. And BTW why is even invoking Jesse or MLK an insult. I would be highly complimented.

so David Frum riffs that it is an insipid remark or a healthful remark (depending on which thesaurus you use) that is used to interpret a racial insult and it is an example of a ultra thin skinned politics that cannot handle criticism.

I did not know invoking a painful assassination came under the category of criticism.

Man, that David Frum is not just a cuckoo but an idiot.

What a damn moron.

so it looks like Hillary Clinton has either developed political Tourette's disease or she has morphed into Tonya Harding or she is how can one put

this, just plain cuckoo.

What a world class cuckoo and icky thang to say, to invoke a painful assassination as an example of a political process that changed.

I can't even begin to address it.

Why is she even talking this way.

The whole point of staying in the race was to let people have their vote count.

It was not to turn into Tonya Harding and start imagining all kinds of stuff befalling your opponents, it was not to turn into Mitt Romney and spend millions of your own money, it was just to stay in and see the process through, now that so many people had got engaged in the primary and wanted to have their say.

Why for instance, is it even costing so many millions to stay in the race, this itself is something that is so amazing. OK, so maybe it is the ads.

But anyway, I thought it had been decided that there would be no smackdowns and backstabs politically.

Now this RFK assassination thang.

For heaven's sake.
Knock it off, Hillary.

And take a few days off, the campaign is making you cuckoo.

Live long and prosper, Barry. Live to a ripe, healthy old age.

For heaven's sake

Tuesday, May 20, 2008

And the other stinky chappal I see is this crap about not talking to Iran

first of all, I dont see Iran longing to talk to anybody, they are very cranky people and still talking rot about Zionists and stuff and stinky corpses, which already shows that George Will and Sean Hannity have plenty of counterparts in that country.

Second, they were even mean to Clinton and Albright and said bellicose thangs about them in 1998.

So I dont see Iran longing to talk to anybody, except trying to take Jerusalem away from Israel and being mean to Israel, which they are always doing.

They also harbor fantasies of being the dominant Muslam, which makes Saudis look at them funny and Sauds count on Pakistan for being their fighting arm, if Iran ever makes it as a superpower.

But the stinky chappal is that keeping Iran down is a self defeating proposition.

True, it could come and bite us in the butt, but as I pointed out, not being here in 50 years is a very nice thang for me, since I will not be around.

On the other hand, I doubt if United States, Russia, Pakistan, India and China are all going to be singing bhajans while Iran goes nuts.

I think chances are the opposite, once it comes into the full world and has some development, it is unlikely to go nuts, but like I said, it could always bite us in the butt in 50 years.

The only thang left is the inevitability, United States can watch its dollar circle the drain, see the price of oil continue to rise and keep bellicosing or it can start talking.

India, China, Russia are already good buddies of it, our economies are doing good. Bush and McCain can keep bawling.

That's how it looks to me.

Bye bye.

And talking of rot, lemme tell ya 2 rots that are being hopefully bandied about

I dont know why these 2 sets of stinky shoes are still around, but apparently they are.

One is the rot about 1967 borders and the other rot is about Iran.

Apparently Hamous and others are still bawling about 1967 borders and many Murricans, black, white and Hispanic still think it is OK to give Texas back to Mexico, Alaska to Russia and Louisiana and Oregon back to France, becoz they think the Israelis are somehow going to pack up and go away and the Palestinians will fill their land.

On the other hand, if India is any criterion, that is exactly what could happen.

First the Muslams said they wanted their own homeland, then they took away our common territories of Sindh, Punjab and Bangla, then they also annexed Baluchistan BTW, now that they mismanaged their 2 countries of Pakistan and Bangladesh, they keep pouring over the border, either as terrorists or economic immigrants.

Their own governments are a mess, even when their kids go to fancy shmancy Western schools and have fancy homes in London and Dubai and Paris, they cant run a government. They make our own bozos look like Disraeli and Gladstone. My goodness, lalu prasad and khursheed alam look like world statesmen, no wonder the TV people love them.

So Pakistan and Bangladesh are a complete mess, their people are always trying to come here and becoz we have like 250 million Muslams, it is very easy to make heck up about ration cards and citizenship. How the heck can the ration card office tell whether Muhammed Hamid is related to 10 other Mohammed Hamids in the same village or not.

I'll tell ya, I cant get a ration card, but they can get a ration card and prolly vote in elections too.

They'll prolly ask me 1000 questions about my domicile even though my Granpa was the Dean of the local med school, my Dad and Uncle went there and all my family grew up here, but they started bawling about my so called domicile. When I found a xerox of my old certificate I felt thrilled and joyous. But if I was called some Muslam name, related to 1000s of similar sounding Muslam names, I betcher I could get a dozen ration cards in 15 days. Just saying.

So I think Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are gonna take over India one way or another, luckily nobody seems to mind.

Maybe Palestinians thought they will slowly overwhelm the Israelis with numbers.

That's why that Balfour guy was such a wuss, he just set up a bad deal. They already created Jordan for the Pallies, they shoulda just made Israel for the Issies, instead of that Wuss letter wussing out dual status for the Pallies.

Well, anyway, though the Issies always say stuff like land exchanges and approximation of 1967 borders, to me it looks like an old stinky chappal, which nobody is really gonna wear, but apparently Hamous and Pallies still talk about it and also the Sauds.

Also the Carterites and the GHW Bushites and bunch of others. I also see they are for giving Tejas back to Mexico, Alaska to Russia and Oregon and Louisiana to France.

Thas all.

talking about rot, here is the old appeasement rot showing up, which would be funny

and is funny actually, considering all the rot that is going on.

First of all, let's acknowledge, 50 years from now, we who are laughing could all be bitten in butt, only thing that keeps me going is that I wont be here 50 years from now, so you all and your kids could get bitten in the butt, but I will be gone, so you can say ha ha stupid to me after 50 years, or whatever, but I will not be there to hear it.

But the main thing is this crap about appeasement, which we are so sick of, I dont see anybody trying to appease anybody.

Also do ya all remember mad George Will and his looney op ed about how 1900s Germany concealed stuff and led to the rise of Heetler.

Now even then, us earnest types tried to reason and say that with Satellites and monitoring and stuff, that kind of so called rise was not possible, but even we were not prepared for the stunning reversal of the pro war lobby when not a speck of weaponry turned up.

This despite all the hamster squeaking of mad Judith whoever from NYT who kept writing about the same balloon labs and mad Colin Powell telling Jim Lehrer that the balloon labs were weapons labs or somethings.

Even we cautioners were not prepared for the utter lack of even a speck of weaponry.

So this whole Heetler thang is now looking like a Mel Brooks or Monty Python skit.

And speaking of George Will, his outrage is now directed at Cheney, who he says is keeping troops there or somethang, I cant recall.

so we have a US election with 3 very flawed and annoying candidates

Not that the ones who got dropped out werent even more flawed and annoying, but still.

I know lots of people are really excited about Barry Obama, well, good. You will all need lots of energy to see that he gets elected and stays on political track and doesnt get mired in useless stuff etc.

We have a lot of things that need to get done. McCain has already said he wont do them, he is deep in the pockets of big bidness, Hillary and Bill are also fairly cozy with big bidness and Hillary health care debacle shows she trusted the wrong people (HMOs) over doctors and nurses although she did have a couple of doctors and and like 3 nurses on her panel.

So anyway, good luck.

I hope the Democrat wins and McCain just looks more feeble each day and the Rethuglicans are talking rot as usual.

The Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh brand of rot has less traction becoz of Iraq. They made all their plump cheeked plummy voiced rot about Iraq and the Europeans and all that, and now with 1 trillion bucks being spent and the Euro rising and oil at 125 bucks a barrel, their plummy voices prolly sound desperate and weird.

Not that I have heard them, but I will try and find out.

Monday, May 12, 2008

So Happy Birthday Israel and McCain and Barry Obama are duking it out and I am scared of both of them

McCain becoz he is apparently saying he will be Hamas's worst nightmare and I think we have all had enough of nightmares, we would like some peace and prosperity now for everyone and Barry Obama becoz his creepy measured style, all lowered lashes and modulated voice and the little mole on the side of his nose, all look incredibly damn phony and pre ordered.

I am spooked by both of them.

As far as Barry Obama's talking points, I think they have come from Carterites and the George HW Bush wing of the Republican party, the ones who want to re start oily relations with Iran, which in itself is not a bad thing, but those folks have also been high on the optimism and fast with the giving away of stuff in Israel, so they are not the most reliable of people.

I doubt if any of his talking points come from Hamas, I would laugh uproariously if somebody said Mashal was saying that, last thang we heard that Mashal was still saying Jerusalem was theirs and blah, blah, blah and Syria wanted the Golan Heights back.

My goodness.

What a horrific choice, really.

Wednesday, May 7, 2008

The second thing that makes me very worried is the obstinacy of Republicans and Bush over the mortgage crisis

and it is a crisis, even if it hasnt hit everywhere with the same intensity.

Delinquencies of 22% are very high and it seems like Barney Frank's bill is the right one.

It is too late now to start debating who is being rewarded, it is headed in the right direction with modest upfront outlays to save homes.

the point is preventing foreclosures prevents neighborhood breakdown, keeps families in place, where they can continue education and work pursuits and keeps the fabric of the country safe.

That is a main priority.

Focus on that, at all times, focus on keeping the fabric of the country intact and strengthened, whatever country we are talking about.

We will tweak the details later.

And one more thing, lemme tell ya, lenders have had too free a hand, by the time the market has reacted, it is too late and not just that, but the reaction is so bad, it is ruining the economy.

so this is what we should tell the market worshippers, by the time the bad guys get even some comeuppance, millions have suffered, many few have made out like bandits and the economy takes a huge hit.

this is the case whether it is robber baron oligarchs in russia, or unscrupulous lenders and derivative traders in America and overseas.

It all sucks and the job of governments and NGOs is to control markets to protect the little guy, becoz markets punish the little guys and help the bandits and thas the truth.

and now the problem is the Dems dont know how to say that and Republicans and Bush are still talking their forked tongue talk about mortgage relief.

It really sucks.

So I was worried about 2 things in America and their more of the same choice

First of all, there was Robert Downey Jr. on Jay Leno after we found out that Ironman was making tons of money on the opening weekend.

And his character turned out to be a classic weapons provider in the old mold, all bravado and free liquor and stuff like that and the audience just went ballistic in joy.

this was very scary, becoz although I am a big supporter of American military strength and also of India and the constant struggle against extremist infiltrators and hostiles, being madly in love with missiles and hardware is not a good idea.

For one, the problem is asymmetric warfare, for second, whatever you say, keeping dialog open is needed.

We may be wrong, but just now mad Pakistan government is planning some kind of rapprochement with the militants, which will backfire IMHO. But Manmohan Singh is determined not to lose his cool. We will see how that works out.

Third and most important, being madly in love with hardware suppliers is the wrong plan, when the United States is getting rooked by a trillion dollar war and all manner of defense expenditure excesses are occuring whether with Cheney's Halliburton and private army buddies or with people like Bush buddy Bollinger from Louisiana who sold the United States a bunch of boats with a bunch of problems.

I would like to see an exercise in caution on all counts and definitely an opening of dialog. It is scary to think what more could happen otherwise, it could be just the lull before the storm.

so Barry Obama wins NC and Hillary squeaks out Indiana

this shows 2 things, black folks are solidly behind their guy and white folks are not that intimidated or appalled by Reverend Wright.

There is nothing there that folks havent heard before and some of it folks might even want to talk about.

On the other hand, I am disappointed with the media demagoging the gas tax holiday, just becoz McCain set it up in a wrong way, dont make it wrong. Hillary's idea of getting the $ 8 billion from the oil companies is a beautiful idea, oil is at $122 a barrel but anything that is soak the oil companies get slammed by media. Thomas Friedman should be ashamed of himself.

so should Barack Obama, he just can't admit Hillary is right any time and just becoz she is losing is no reason to quit.

She dont have to do a scorched earth policy or anything, but now she is in for the stretch, she is in.

she mentioned like she has lived the American dream, this is true, the American dream is also that now she is successful and the millionaire wife of a millionaire ex president and a twice elected Senator, American voters can still choose to elect someone with much less experience and some but a lot less wealth and influence.

so that part of the American dream is good and we cant say all the motivations of the Barack Obama supporters, but they are making their choices, just as Hillary supporters are making theirs.

And I feel pretty sure McCain will be the President come November, but Democrats will have their first black nominee and he is not 10th generation African, but 2nd generation and still has relations in the old country.

So that much is all good, but I will be surprised if he lands in the White House, that's all.

But that's no reason for Hillary to quit.

Just like Jesse Jackson supporters made it a point to cast their delegate votes for him and place his name in nomination at the convention, it is now paramount all voters have their say.

It will not be fine for scorched earth or screeching to seat Florida and Michigan, unless of course, it ends up being a 50 50 split, which IMHO it is, and primary voters should have decided that long ago. But if you want to avoid disenfranchisement, then go ahead with a compromise and do a split.

Barry is ahead and let him get the nomination.

I think it will be pretty awful if McCain wins, although folks dont think so, but it will be more of the same.

Saturday, May 3, 2008

And Wright goes on to say he has no problems with Judaism but that is becoz he is Christian, lemme tell ya, some people do have a problem

although they do not even know it, becoz our Middle Name is Oblivious.

The fact is that Judaism was founded on being against idols and if you look around people, we are in India, which is wall to wall idols.

Not only in the old testament or whatever, what do I know, Jewish texts, they keep complaining about idols, they give them self tsuris and chastisement every time some calamity happens, or war happens, they say, aha, it is becoz we did not rid ourselves of idols enough.

Lemme tell ya, this is ridiculous, calamaties and war happen becoz of the human condition, not becoz of idols.

Christianity has plenty of idols, even those sects that do not have statues or Mother Mary, the cross itself is idolatry.

There are people who even get worked up at little scraps of Torah scripture being kept in books or in the teffillin, becoz they say it is idolatry.

Muslims are famously against idolatry and even depictions of human body, let alone their prophet, who BTW married umpteen times, including the last time to a 6 year old girl, and consummated the marriage when she was 8, and it was in this umpteenth under age marriage, that the father in law decided he was the next successor prophet and they began a fight with the descendants from the first marriage, which was Fatima and the kids. So that is how the Sunni (from the father in law from the underage girl marriage) and the Shia (from Fatima and the kids) rivalry began.

And if Farrkhan wanta talk hair raising, he could maybe have a huge exposition on that.

But never mind that, this ranting against idolatry is also a sign of Oliver Cromwell, who had a big fight over it, not comprehending that his Church the Church of England was born becoz a previous king had umpteen wives and wanted to divorce and off them, and the Popes in Rome wouldnt let them. But Oliver Cromwell was another one always ranting about idols.

And there was a big thing with a born again White Christian guy in the US Military who started bawling about Muslims that their God is an idol. This made me astonished, becoz one thing we already established is all the Abrahamic faiths have a huge issue with idols.

The idol people are us, the Asians, the Indians, Cambodians, Balinese, Buddhists etc. We are the ones with the huge idols, little idols, millions of idols in our temples, huge big idols in our caves, out of rocks, in the mountains, and little bitty idols all over our homes, to whom we talk, pray, feed, adore, play music, dress up and feed and all the rest of it.

So we would like a little respect for our love of our own idols. We do not want people dissing them, blowing them up or trying to take them away.

If you dont like idols, fine. We like our idols and we would like to keep them.

Also the Buddhas in the mountains have been there for thousands of years, long before the Muslims got there and now the Muslims tried to blow them up. Ditto in Kashmir and Bali and all over India, Nepal, Bangladesh and Pakistan and Far East, us people was there long before and this new religion shows up and thinks it is the boss.

So this is the part of the Abrahamic religions I object to and I would like some respect and tolerance for our side.

Furthermore, the Kaaba is a jewish stone and people see no problem in saying prayers to it and worship it, so you worship your stone, we will worship ours, OK, that's perfectly fair and if Reverend Wright, Farrakhan and Barry Obama are so disposed, I would like to find out their detailed views on the issue, also a variety of rabbis and padres and mullahs, that would be fine too.

Thank you.

yeah, so the Z word and Wright and is anyone gonna address it

So lemme tell ya, there is nothing normal about calling Zionism a gutter religion.

First of all, it is not a religion and second of all, what has gutter got to do about it.

I think this is the part that has a hilarious side effect and the fact that Wright and Farrakhan are being repudiated may be a shock in the middle east where dissing Zionism, which they pronounce with a hissing on the Z, is a long professed time pass.

in the middle east, they simply loathe Zionism and think everyone in the world loathes it too. To their shock, even though they might pretend that Barry Obama is just a politician wiggling out becoz of Jews, they can't shake off that the Zionism is a gutter religion clip did not cause widespread hallelujah's in the country.

And let's not fool ourselves, that's not becoz people are not disapproving of Isreal, oh, they are. There is white people and black people who are very disapproving of Isreal, it is just that unlike the middle east, most people of both races in America, do believe Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state and this is the big difference between America and the middle east.

But never mind that, even though it must have shocked the middle east, the point is that Zionism is not a religion, and I dont want to get into whether Carter and Tutu said that, or it is the same thing or what not.

the point is Zionists believe in the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state and if ya wanna call it gutter, then establishing a home state for Jordan for the Palestinians is also a gutter, Liberia which was established for liberated African American slaves is a gutter, Bangladesh is a gutter, Balochis want a gutter and Pakistan is a gutter. Also Chechnyans wanting a separate Chechnya is a gutter and Kosovo is a gutter.

so that is the part about Zionism, all the lefties think all the other movements where certain people want a separate state is just hunky dory, but only Jews wanting a little bitty slice of land is a gutter.

And speaking of Kosovo, I dont hear Reverend Wright or anybody else complaining that White Christian Serbs got done out of their homeland. That fat ass Marti Haari or whatever his Finnish name is and his American and UK buddies pushed through the independence of Kosovo, which they had decided all along, but which they somehow neglected to tell us.

I also dont hear Reverend Wright bawling for the Sindhis who lost their homeland or Punjabis or Bengalis becoz Pakistan and Bangladesh wanted separate lands and threw out all the Hindus and Sikhs.

And dont tell me there are a couple dozen still around, that dont count. We have millions of Muslims here, how many millions of Hindus you got.

Yeah, so this whole gutter thing somehow becomes very selective and I notice Wright did not repudiate that, and just repudiating stuff without giving details is a way easy out for Barry and I would like some clarification.

And I am not done yet, becoz I have some things about Judaism too and the whole Abrahamic religion stuff, and that's just the way it is

The Farrakhan Zionism Clip and Reverend Wright at the Press Club

So I read a few of the reports on Reverend Wright and especially to search for the now notorious episode at the Press Club, where reportedly he went nuts during the question answer session.

Luckily, in his Wiki profile, I found reference No. 48 linking to the NYT transcript.

I also found his military record and how Wright was at Bethesda and took care of President Johnson and all of that, and this man and his family have a long history with the country, I dont think we can just blow him off.

Also he has a constituency and not just like Ross Perot for one election season, he has been maintaining a church constituency for over 20 years and if he had been an outright loon, we might have heard of him sooner.

Barry on the hand, sounds like a typical politician, all wriggling and expediency.

We thought he was all charisma and rhetoric and when the going got tough, he is trying to wriggle out.

so anyways, I am looking for the Press Club transcript and as far as I can see, there is a lot that is transcendent, there is some that is angry, but a lot of people white and black and asian are angry, angry is no reason to lose your nerve, angry means something is wrong and maybe somethings need to be corrected.

But there is one point where Wright looks like he is getting agitated and worked up, and interesting thing is that it wasnt even the Moderator who brought it up, it was Wright himself and it was the Z word for Zionism.

Also I would like to say, I would like to find out who is the Moderator, but maybe I didnt look hard enough. Also the moderator made it a point to let audiences know that the applause was not necessarily from what he/she referred to as the working press but guests or somebody, presumably Wright supporters.

Wright also made humorous and ironic references to that mention, but that is an aside.

The interesting thing is how the Z word came to be mentioned and it is not pretty, so if you can't stand un pretty, better stop reading now.

This is one of the items I would like Barry Obama and the legions on his side to please comment in detail.

So the moderator asks about Farrakhan and this is what Reverend Wright has to say:
Let's note, the moderator only asks about Farrakhan and did not mention any Z word, the moderator says:
MODERATOR: What is your relationship with Louis Farrakhan? Do you agree with and
respect his views, including his most racially divisive views?


And this is the interesting part, where it looks like Wright goes a little agitated and worked up and brings up the Z word, and then tries to bring Jimmy Carter, Desmond Tutu et al into it.

Now I did not know that news stations had been broadcasting a certain Farrakhan clip over and over again, but apparently they had and apparently the clip included the Z word, used in a real weirdo way.

Let's see what Wright said: REVEREND WRIGHT: As I said on the Bill Moyers' show, one of our news channels keeps playing a news clip from 20 years ago when Louis said 20 years ago that Zionism, not Judaism, was a gutter religion. And he was talking about the same thing United Nations resolutions say, the same thing now that President Carter is being vilified for, and Bishop Tutu is being vilified for. And everybody wants to paint me as if I'm anti-Semitic because of what Louis Farrakhan said 20 years ago.

So that was what the transcript referred to, Wright said, that Farrakhan had said Zionism is a gutter religion, and Wright believed, that it was referring to ***the same thing*** United Nations Resolutions, the same thing President Carter is being vilified for, and Bishop Tutu is being vilified for. And Wright complained that he is being painted as anti Semitic becoz of what Farrakhan said 20 years ago.

the easy part is saying Repudiate, what exactly is being Repudiated, Barry Obama and Wright

so now the official story especially from Barry Obama supporters is that Reverend Wright is loony.

So now we are supposed to believe that all along Barry has been clinging to this guy, using him as mentor, having him marry him, bless his house, his kids, pray with him before he announces for running for office and now suddenly he is a loon.

What is it exactly we are saying he is looney over.

I would like a step by step, item by item discussion.
Forget about what did Barry know and when did he know it, forget about did he sleep through the sermons.
What are the items he finds looney.
Please describe and discuss.

Is this too much to ask.